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Ciao a tutti,

 

come forse qualcuno sa, prima avevo Lion e ora ho formattato e installato Leopard OS sul mio Macbook del 2008 proprio ieri sera.

 

Ho però un problema che persiste, per tutti i browser. Ogni tanto si riavviano da soli, oppure, specie in Chrome, appare la faccina triste con scritto "mi dispiace c'è stato un problema" o qualcosa del genere.

Mi succede sulle pagine in Flash, facebook soprattutto ma anche google drive, youtube etc..


Succede anche con gli altri browser, e va a "giornate", e non capisco perché: ci sono dei giorni che fila tutto liscio e altre che non riesco a tenere aperto un browser perchè continua a crashare..

 

Ora ho disattivato tutti i plugin di chrome (AdBlock Plus e Better Pop Up Blocker), vediamo che succede, ma non penso comunque che i plugin di Chrome vadano a influire sugli altri browser.. 

 

qualche consiglio per testare la faccenda?

grazie ! 

 

EDIT: no, il problema persiste.

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Credo che il problema sia dovuto dal fatto che tornando a Leopard non riesci ad aggiornare alle ultime versioni di FlashPlayer, controlla ed aggiorna FlashPlayer

all'ultima versione possibile per Leopard.

Prova anche ad installare ClickToFlash  e vedi come va.

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Lion era abbastanza pesante e 'viscoso' ma Mountain Lion è più fluido. Però posso capirti nel preferire il downgrade su Mac con qualche anno, solo che mi pare eccessivo essere tornato a Leopard quando tutti (beh, quasi) sono concordi nell'aver tirato un gran sospiro di sollievo con Snow Leopard. Sembra che le versioni dispari siano un po' iellate ... speriamo si sfati la cosa con Mavericks.

 

Ora come ora di Flash sono disponibili ancora aggiornamenti regolari http://www.adobe.com/it/software/flash/about/ che in OS X 10.6.8 funzionano bene se si disabilità tutto il disabilitabile nel pannello che da più di un anno installa nelle Preferenze di Sistema. L'unica cosa utile è la segnalazione degli aggiornamenti. Attenzione a scaricare da altri siti qualsiasi cosa inerente Flash.

Ottima soluzione installare ClickToFlash, per lo meno come estensione in Safari.

Sempre in Safari installando Google Disconnect si da un'ulteriore marcia in più alla navigazione, magari ti riduce gli episodi.

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Fosse un Alluminum Late 2008 allora ML si potrebbe installare.

 

Se hai aggiornato tutto avrai scaricato anche gli aggiornamenti di sicurezza che vengono ancora rilasciati anche per SL:

Apple Software Installer Update 1.0

Aggiornamento di sicurezza 2012-004 (Snow Leopard)

Aggiornamento di sicurezza 2013-001 (Snow Leopard)

Aggiornamento di sicurezza 2013-002 (Snow Leopard)

Security Update 2013-003 (Snow Leopard)

 

Hai controllato il pannello Flash nelle Preferenze di Sistema? Se fai aggiornamenti in automatico lui magari si reimposta come vuole ...

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Se hai aggiornato tutto avrai scaricato anche gli aggiornamenti di sicurezza che vengono ancora rilasciati anche per SL:

 

Ho installato Snow Leopard 2 giorni fa e ho subito fatto Mela-> Aggiornamento Software , ha scaricato un pacchetto di qualche Giga, penso che gli aggiornamenti da te citati siano già installati.

Se eventualmente provo a installarli di nuovo, mi avvisa che ci sono già ?

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Ho installato Snow Leopard 2 giorni fa e ho subito fatto Mela-> Aggiornamento Software , ha scaricato un pacchetto di qualche Giga, penso che gli aggiornamenti da te citati siano già installati.

Se eventualmente provo a installarli di nuovo, mi avvisa che ci sono già ?

non ti dà più l'aggiornamento

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Ho installato Snow Leopard 2 giorni fa e ho subito fatto Mela-> Aggiornamento Software , ha scaricato un pacchetto di qualche Giga, penso che gli aggiornamenti da te citati siano già installati.

Se eventualmente provo a installarli di nuovo, mi avvisa che ci sono già ?

 

Non sprecar tempo a scaricarli, Aggiornamento Software sa far bene il suo lavoro è l'Installer ti avvertirebbe dell'inutilità di ripetere cose già fatte.

 

 

 

Ho un pò di paura a fare un "Aggiornamento sicurezza", perché mi sa che era uno di quelli che mi ha fatto crashare Lion e mi ha costretto a formattare mannaggia  :D

 

Gli aggiornamenti di sicurezza di Lion non c'entrano nulla con Snow Leopard.

Non c'è alcuna evidenza che quegli aggiornamenti presentino criticità.

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ok, ho appena installato altri aggiormaneti facendo mela->Cerca aggiornamenti.

Riavviato.

Il problema persiste ... delle volte addirittura Chrome si riavvia da solo.

Prima stavo facendo delle normalissime operazioni ed è apparso il quadrato Nero con il messaggio che mi intimava di riavviare col tasto .. boh. E ho formattato 4 giorni fa.. 

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è esattamente come questo:

http://i.stack.imgur.com/ejpBd.jpg

 

Edit: ogni tanto in Chrome mi esce la barra con scritto "Shockwave Flash crashed"

 

Quella è la schermata di un kernel panic e non è affatto detto che c'entri con Flash e con Crome ed i browser. Ma non t'è mai successo in un altro programma che non fosse un browser?

 

I kernel panic dipendono dall'hardware nella maggior parte dei casi. Hai fatto qualche tipo d'intervento: upgrade RAM o cambio HD? Altrimenti ci dovrebbe essere dell'autentica porcheria software perché la causa sia di quella natura.

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Provo a togliere un banco di ram ? 

 

Ho cambiato ram e hd .. ma il 99 % dei problemi è legato a Flash .. 

 

Se hai la RAM vecchia prova a rimontarla. Non scordare di dare una sgrassata alle piste con un cottonfioc umido, non fradicio, di alcool. Male sicuramente non fa. Controlla anche le piste con una lente d'ingrandimento sotto una forte luce. Potrebbe darsi che per qualche accidente si sia rovinato qualcosa e si stabiliscano dei falsi contatti. Attenzione quindi prima di reinfilare qualsiasi banco. E annotati bene le sostituzioni che fai.

 

Dato che apri il Mac controlla bene anche che la connessione del disco sia in ordine e che nient'altro sia fuori posto.

 

Sull'incidenza di Flash si potrebbe dire una parola definitiva disinstallandolo per qualche giorno.

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Non so dirti. A me basta Safari e faccio tutto quel che imparo per togliermi flash dalle scatole. Sarà perché un amico mi ha impestato un MBP navigando siti porno ... ma da allora proprio tra ClicToFlash a tutte i settaggi delle preferenze possibili cerco di non doverci avere a che fare.

 

Suppongo che, se non hai siti che per lavoro solo Crome ti permette di navigare bene, potrai farne a meno per qualche giorno, no?

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  • 5 settimane dopo...

Niente, Safari addirittura mi crasha.

 

Qui sotto il codice dell'errore.

Vorrei fare il test dell'hardware ma a quanto pare con apple, se non hai il cd del OSx non puoi fare niente.... quindi che devo fa ? 

 

Process:         Safari [225]
Path:            /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier:      com.apple.Safari
Version:         5.1.9 (6534.59.
Build Info:      WebBrowser-75345908~1
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [95]

Date/Time:       2013-08-20 11:52:44.653 +0200
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:          676356 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           44
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  3146 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Anonymous UUID:                      94357B5A-61BA-459F-9736-E7D6303A69B0

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000d, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread:  11

Thread 0:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84710d7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff847113ed mach_msg + 59
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807de902 __CFRunLoopRun + 1698
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807ddd8f CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 575
4   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff82c347ee RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 333
5   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff82c345f3 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 310
6   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff82c344ac BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 59
7   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff899f3eb2 _DPSNextEvent + 708
8   com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff899f3801 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 155
9   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff8911d96c -[BrowserApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 177
10  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff899b968f -[NSApplication run] + 395
11  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff899b23b0 NSApplicationMain + 364
12  com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff892de57a SafariMain + 200
13  com.apple.Safari              	0x0000000100000f1c 0x100000000 + 3868

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84729c0a kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472badd _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 154
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472b7b4 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 185
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472b2de _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 252
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472ac08 _pthread_wqthread + 353
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472aaa5 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 2:  WebCore: IconDatabase
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8474ba6a __semwait_signal + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8474f881 _pthread_cond_wait + 1286
2   com.apple.WebCore             	0x00007fff852ea199 WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop() + 265
3   com.apple.WebCore             	0x00007fff852e7598 WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread() + 296
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84710d7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff847113ed mach_msg + 59
2   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842dc396 CA::Render::Server::server_thread(void*) + 177
3   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842dc2d6 thread_fun + 34
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84710d7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff847113ed mach_msg + 59
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807de902 __CFRunLoopRun + 1698
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807ddd8f CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 575
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff80af314f +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 297
5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff80a74114 __NSThread__main__ + 1429
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 5:  Safari: SafeBrowsingManager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84710d7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff847113ed mach_msg + 59
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807de902 __CFRunLoopRun + 1698
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807ddd8f CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 575
4   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff892958f5 WKBundleInitialize + 208109
5   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff8929592f WKBundleInitialize + 208167
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 6:  Safari: SnapshotStore
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8474ba6a __semwait_signal + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8474f881 _pthread_cond_wait + 1286
2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x00007fff8244f3b0 WTF::ThreadCondition::timedWait(WTF::Mutex&, double) + 64
3   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff8931215b Safari::MessageQueueWaitResult Safari::MessageQueue<WTF::RefPtr<Safari::SnapshotStore::DiskAccessMessage> >::waitForMessageFilteredWithTimeout<bool ()(WTF::RefPtr<Safari::SnapshotStore::DiskAccessMessage>&)>(WTF::RefPtr<Safari::SnapshotStore::DiskAccessMessage>&, bool (&)(WTF::RefPtr<Safari::SnapshotStore::DiskAccessMessage>&), double) + 149
4   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff893105cd Safari::SnapshotStore::diskAccessThreadBody() + 115
5   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff8931074d Safari::SnapshotStore::diskAccessThreadCallback(void*) + 9
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 7:  com.apple.CFSocket.private
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84754932 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff80800468 __CFSocketManager + 824
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 8:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472aa2a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472ae3c _pthread_wqthread + 917
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472aaa5 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 9:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472aa2a __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472ae3c _pthread_wqthread + 917
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff8472aaa5 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 10:  Safari: SpinningProgressIndicator
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84710d7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff847113ed mach_msg + 59
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807de902 __CFRunLoopRun + 1698
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff807ddd8f CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 575
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff80aaeb74 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 270
5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff80aaea53 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) run] + 77
6   com.apple.Safari.framework    	0x00007fff89317641 -[Heartbeat _startHeartbeatRunLoop] + 244
7   com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff80a74114 __NSThread__main__ + 1429
8   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
9   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 11 Crashed:
0   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edf53 CA::OGL::render_contents_background(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer const*) + 313
1   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edd5e CA::OGL::LayerNode::apply(CA::OGL::Surface**) + 66
2   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edbe5 CA::OGL::ImagingNode::render(CA::OGL::ImagingNode::RenderClosure*) + 143
3   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ed57a CA::OGL::render_layers(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer*, CA::OGL::Gstate const&) + 981
4   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edde9 CA::OGL::LayerNode::apply(CA::OGL::Surface**) + 205
5   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edbe5 CA::OGL::ImagingNode::render(CA::OGL::ImagingNode::RenderClosure*) + 143
6   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ed57a CA::OGL::render_layers(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer*, CA::OGL::Gstate const&) + 981
7   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edde9 CA::OGL::LayerNode::apply(CA::OGL::Surface**) + 205
8   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edbe5 CA::OGL::ImagingNode::render(CA::OGL::ImagingNode::RenderClosure*) + 143
9   com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ed57a CA::OGL::render_layers(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer*, CA::OGL::Gstate const&) + 981
10  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edde9 CA::OGL::LayerNode::apply(CA::OGL::Surface**) + 205
11  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edbe5 CA::OGL::ImagingNode::render(CA::OGL::ImagingNode::RenderClosure*) + 143
12  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ed57a CA::OGL::render_layers(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer*, CA::OGL::Gstate const&) + 981
13  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edde9 CA::OGL::LayerNode::apply(CA::OGL::Surface**) + 205
14  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842edbe5 CA::OGL::ImagingNode::render(CA::OGL::ImagingNode::RenderClosure*) + 143
15  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ed57a CA::OGL::render_layers(CA::OGL::Context&, CA::OGL::Layer*, CA::OGL::Gstate const&) + 981
16  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842ea55a CA::OGL::Context::render(CA::Render::Update*) + 580
17  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842e4187 view_draw(_CAView*, double, CVTimeStamp const*, bool) + 2600
18  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842e3708 view_display_link(double, CVTimeStamp const*, void*) + 64
19  com.apple.QuartzCore          	0x00007fff842e364f link_callback + 219
20  com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff823bd0ab CVDisplayLink::performIO(CVTimeStamp*) + 431
21  com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff823bc310 CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 754
22  com.apple.CoreVideo           	0x00007fff823bbfe3 startIOThread(void*) + 139
23  libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749fd6 _pthread_start + 331
24  libSystem.B.dylib             	0x00007fff84749e89 thread_start + 13

Thread 11 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x00007fff8448155a  rbx: 0x00007fff705d0470  rcx: 0x0000000000000002  rdx: 0x00000001012914a8
  rdi: 0x00007fff705d0470  rsi: 0x0000000101291378  rbp: 0x000000011b1b5cf0  rsp: 0x000000011b1b5af0
   r8: 0x0000000101066840   r9: 0x0000000000000002  r10: 0x0000000000000019  r11: 0x0000000000000000
  r12: 0x0000000101291378  r13: 0x00000001158ab040  r14: 0x00000001012914a8  r15: 0x0000000000000001
  rip: 0x00007fff842edf53  rfl: 0x0000000000010202  cr2: 0x0000000115638000

Binary Images:
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Model: MacBook4,1, BootROM MB41.00C1.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.1 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.31f1
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100, GMA X3100, Built-In, 144 MB
Memory Module: global_name
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x88), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.42.4)
Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: TOSHIBA MK5075GSX, 465,76 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-867
USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8501, 0xfd400000 / 2
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8205, 0x1a100000 / 2
USB Device: USB Optical Mouse, 0x1bcf  (Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc.), 0x0007, 0x1a200000 / 3
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x0229, 0x5d200000 / 3
USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x5d100000 / 2
 
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Allora penso che possa dire con certezza che non si tratta di un problema Software, perché ho formattato e cambiato addirittura OSx ..

 

Quindi può trattarsi di una delle due periferiche che ho cambiato: 1. l'HD 2. la RAM aggiunta ... 

 

come faccio a capirlo , senza dover togliere un banco di Ram alla volta e provare ? non c'è un tester per Apple da scaricare senza dover per forza andare a cercare un CD con il OS ? 

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Il DVD originale dell'OS allegato al Mac si DEVE avere. È logico che per fare il test servano routine presenti in quel disco. Inoltre se tu avessi una versione recente e distribuita online ci sarebbero possibilità diverse, però all'epoca di Snow Lopard non esistevano ancora.

Comunque c'è qualche alternativa, vedi se riesci ad usare le indicazioni di Apple: Utilizzo di Apple Hardware Test (AHT)

 

Controlla di nuovo i contatti delle RAM e dell'HD con lente e luce forte. Sembra proprio uno di quei casi di contatti rovinati o sporchi. Potresti anche reinserire gli originali e vedere se i problemi si presentassero ancora.

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ho fatto un test con Rember ma niente.

Dopo provo a staccare un banco di RAM alla volta.. 

 

Rember Test Results

All tests passed!

Total built-in memory: 4 GB


	This is the total amount of physical memory that the computer has installed.  If this figure is not showing the correct amount of memory there may be a problem with one or more installed DIMMS.

Available memory: 2711 MB

	Available memory is the amount of physical memory that is currently not in use by any other processes.  All available memory will be used for testing when the "All" option is selected. To increase the amount of available memory, you can restart your computer before testing. If you are familiar with the command line (CLI), you can run memtest (the core of Rember) in single-user mode. See Rember help, or http://www.memtestosx.org for more information.

Requested amount: All MB

	The total amount of memory requested for testing by the Rember application. Not all requested memory can be allocated for testing. See information on "Available memory" for more information.

Memory allocated for testing: 2711 MB

	This is the total amount of memory that memtest was able to allocate for testing.  See "Available memory" section for more information.

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Loops selected: 1

	Total loops selected by user for testing. All loops should complete when testing is successful. Test failure when the "Continue on Error" preference is selected will cancel tests before this number of loops has been completed. Users can also cancel testing before this number is reached.

Loops completed: 1

	Total loops completed by memtest.  Note that the Rember is not always able to identify how many loops ran.  If there are discrepancies between this and the loops selected, the log should be examined to determine exactly how many loops were performed.
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Total execution time: All tests passed!  Execution time: 2813  seconds

	This is the total amount of time that it took to execute the selected tests. Execution time may vary from system to system, and is provided as a guide for determining how long users can expect tests to run based on the amount of memory installed on the system.

Testing start time: 2013-08-20 12:29:52 +0200

Testing end time: 2013-08-20 13:16:48 +0200


Rember version: 0.3.7b Memtest version: 4.22 
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quelle che ti consiglia il sito buydifferent (ma ti consiglio di fare l'acquisto su amazon).

 

non c'è una marca che va meglio sui mac, le marche migliori non hanno (o non dovrebbero) avere problemi di compatibilità.

 La supposizione è la madre di tutte le cazzate.

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... Il problema è che la RAM è nuova, e gli apparecchi per testarla non hanno rilevato niente, che fare?

è una CORSAIR 128MBCHEG PRCO631239 S0101006PHCYB

 

Su questa pagina http://www.corsair.com/it/catalogsearch/result/?q= con quelle sigle non trovo nulla. Contestala al venditore se non funziona.

 

Il tuo MacBook 4,1 usa 2 banchi 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM e qui ne trovi una scelta come minimo per fare un raffronto o sapere cosa chiedere in sostituzione

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