RobySara Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 ragazzi scusate non riesco a capire perché il mio mac è diventato estremamente lento nell' aprire qualsiasi cosa o nel semplice avvio .... cosa posso fare? devo portarlo in assistenza? ci sono modi per pulire la memoria? grazie mille.... Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
167-761 Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 probabilmente ti si è installata della merdaccia. Portalo in assistenza, è una buona idea. Se vuoi fare da solo/a, scarica e lancia Etrecheck, verrà generato un report che puoi copiare e incollare qui nel forum, lo valuteremo e troverai cosa fare. Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
RobySara Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 Autore Segnala Condividi Inviato 29 Luglio 2016 eccolo EtreCheck version: 2.9.13 (267) Report generated 2016-07-29 22:58:50 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime 2:17 Performance: Excellent Click the [support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Details] links for more information about that line. Click the [Remove] links to remove adware. Click the [Check files] link for help with unknown files. Problem: Computer is too slow Hardware Information: ⓘ iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014) [Technical Specifications] - [user Guide] - [Warranty & Service] iMac - model: iMac14,4 1 1,4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core 8 GB RAM Not upgradeable BANK 0/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok BANK 1/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac Video Information: ⓘ Intel HD Graphics 5000 iMac 1920 x 1080 System Software: ⓘ OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 (15G31) - Time since boot: about 2 days Disk Information: ⓘ APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362 disk0 : (500,11 GB) (Rotational) EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 498.93 GB (383.99 GB free) Core Storage: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online USB Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) Apple Inc. MacBook Air SuperDrive Apple Inc. Magic Keyboard Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus Gatekeeper: ⓘ Mac App Store and identified developers Adware: ⓘ ~/Library/LaunchAgents/Leperdvil.download.plist.eset ~/Library/LaunchAgents/Leperdvil.ltvbit.plist.eset ~/Library/LaunchAgents/Leperdvil.update.plist.eset 3 adware files found. [Remove] Unknown Files: ⓘ /Library/LaunchDaemons/it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/it.easybyte.konga.helper /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/it.easybyte.konga.helper One unknown file found. [Check files] Kernel Extensions: ⓘ /Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app [loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-kac (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] [not loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-mac (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] [loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-pfw (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] System Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] 6 Apple tasks [loaded] 151 Apple tasks [running] 81 Apple tasks System Launch Daemons: ⓘ [not loaded] 42 Apple tasks [loaded] 146 Apple tasks [running] 102 Apple tasks Launch Agents: ⓘ [failed] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a...plist (2016-07-11) [support] [loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2015-07-01) [support] [running] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist (2016-07-27) [support] [running] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist (2016-07-27) [support] Launch Daemons: ⓘ [loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-06-29) [support] [running] com.eset.esets_daemon.plist (2015-09-28) [support] [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2015-07-01) [support] [loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2015-03-02) [support] [running] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist (2016-07-27) [support] [loaded] it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist (2015-12-17) [support] User Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] Leperdvil.download.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [not loaded] Leperdvil.ltvbit.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [not loaded] Leperdvil.update.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2015-02-02) [support] User Login Items: ⓘ iTunesHelper Applicazione (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app) Dropbox Applicazione (/Applications/Dropbox.app) ESET Cyber Security Applicazione (/Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app) Other Apps: ⓘ [running] com.eset.ecs.6.47072 [running] com.eset.ecs.6.60512 [running] com.getdropbox.dropbox.46752 [loaded] 399 Apple tasks [running] 207 Apple tasks Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ FlashPlayer-10.6: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-27) AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 15.017.20050 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-27) [support] AdobePDFViewer: 15.017.20050 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-27) [support] Flash Player: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-27) JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 77 build 03 (2016-04-02) Check version 3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ Flash Player (2016-06-29) [support] Java (2016-04-02) [support] Time Machine: ⓘ Mobile backups: OFF Auto backup: YES Volumes being backed up: Macintosh HD: Disk size: 498.93 GB Disk used: 114.94 GB Destinations: Data [Network] Total size: 2.00 TB Total number of backups: 71 Oldest backup: 08/01/15, 08:32 Last backup: 29/07/16, 22:19 Size of backup disk: Excellent Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 498.93 GB X 3) Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ 13% kernel_task 4% WindowServer 1% fontd 0% esets_tray 0% esets_gui Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ 778 MB kernel_task 459 MB softwareupdated 221 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent 213 MB mds_stores 156 MB esets_daemon(2) Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ 1.13 GB Free RAM 6.86 GB Used RAM (3.18 GB Cached) 0 B Swap Used Diagnostics Information: ⓘ Jul 29, 2016, 08:27:00 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/esets_proxy_2016-07-29-202700_[redacted].crash /Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app/Contents/MacOS/esets_proxy Jul 29, 2016, 08:14:13 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/IMDPersistenceAgent_2016-07-29-201413_[redacted].crash /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IMDPersistence.framework/XPCServices/IMDPersistenceAgent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/IMDPersistenceAgent Jul 29, 2016, 08:14:09 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/IDSKeychainSyncingProxy_2016-07-29-201409_[redacted].crash /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Resources/IDSKeychainSyncingProxy.bundle/Contents/MacOS/IDSKeychainSyncingProxy Jul 27, 2016, 09:36:48 PM Self test - passed Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
A.Freemason Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Portalo in assistenza, è una buona idea..... ciao 167-761...... Ma siamo a sto punto........ siamo ben messi..... eccolo EtreCheck version: 2.9.13 (267) Report generated 2016-07-29 22:58:50 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime 2:17 Performance: Excellent Click the [support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Details] links for more information about that line. Click the [Remove] links to remove adware. Click the [Check files] link for help with unknown files. ecc.... ecc....... Visto così...... hai qualche file che gironzola e non sa cosa fare......poi quel antivirus..... non so fino a che punto possa essere efficace ...... scaricati easy find è una app. gratuita su appStore, oltre che a fare tante cose una utile e cancellare le applicazioni e file collegati ad esso in modo da non lasciare orfani in giro che col tempo possono creare rallentamenti al s.o ........ comincia a togliere sta robina con easy find...... [not loaded] Leperdvil.download.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [not loaded] Leperdvil.ltvbit.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [not loaded] Leperdvil.update.plist.eset (2015-08-01) Adware! [Remove] [failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2015-02-02) [support] e ESET Cyber Security se non erro è l'antivirus ...... chiudilo in modo che non si avvi , poi decidi se tenerlo o eliminarlo.....già questo rallenta la macchina ..... poi vedi se ti serve o meno ( se sei obbligato ad utilizzarlo per lavoro per garantire determinati protocolli di sicurezza usalo solo quando ti serve) se non toglilo..... una ripulita sulle cache dei browser e porcheria delle mail io uso clamXav per le mail è uno scanner usato in locale ti individua eventuali porcherie tirate dentro dalle mail ricevute...... e poi vediamo ...... nice day from poland....... Best Regards from Italy Alessandro Massone Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
167-761 Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Ciao Freemason, portarlo in assistenza avrebbe risolto. Se il cliente non vuole sbattersi, la ritengo una buona soluzione. Se preferisce fare da solo, meglio. Oltre a sapere cosa è successo, impara qualcosa. Come in questo caso, abbiamo già inquadrato i colpevoli, e l'intervento è molto facile. Per quanto riguarda l'adware, prova a cliccare sul link [Remove] e magari sei già a posto. Se non basta, allora andremo a cercare i vari files da rimuovere. Lo farei "a mano", senza installare ancora utility di terze parti, che come abbiamo visto hanno le loro controindicazioni. Una pagina trovata a caso, dove viene spiegato cosa fare. Scanning it with your own anti-virus program may help in a way but in cases like this, Search.leperdvil.com regenerates after a computer reboot. This is because the one affecting your Mac OS X is not a virus, rather an adware that may have evaded the scanning made by your anti-virus program. Nota l'accoppiata adware-antivirus. L'antivirus, in questo caso ESET cyber Security, oltre ad essere pesante e rallentare notevolmente il Mac e creare instabilità , è perfettamente inutile. Rimuovilo! Dopo l'intervento, crea un nuovo report con Etrecheck, e vediamo se è tutto a posto. Finito il lavoro, ovviamente, rimuovi anche Etrecheck. Curiosità : hai installato, e usi, qualche programma di contabilità di easybyte? Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
markusgar Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 ciao..forse ti può aiutare anche Onyx?..http://www.titanium.free.fr/onyx.html i dilettanti hanno costruito l'arca....i professionisti...il titanic !! Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
A.Freemason Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 30 Luglio 2016 ciao..forse ti può aiutare anche Onyx?..http://www.titanium.free.fr/onyx.html della serie come fare danni col minimo sforzo........ non neessario per ora , meglio altro.......forse ....... vedimo cosa dice prima ....... nice evening from poland......... Best Regards from Italy Alessandro Massone Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
RobySara Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 Autore Segnala Condividi Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 EtreCheck version: 3.0.1 (304) Report generated 2016-08-18 06:43:24 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime 2:17 Performance: Excellent Click the [support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Details] links for more information about that line. Problem: Beachballing Hardware Information: ⓘ iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014) [Technical Specifications] - [user Guide] - [Warranty & Service] iMac - model: iMac14,4 1 1,4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core 8 GB RAM Not upgradeable BANK 0/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok BANK 1/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac Video Information: ⓘ Intel HD Graphics 5000 iMac 1920 x 1080 System Software: ⓘ OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 (15G31) - Time since boot: about 17 days Disk Information: ⓘ APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362 disk0 : (500,11 GB) (Rotational) EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 498.93 GB (379.14 GB free) Core Storage: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online USB Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) Apple Inc. MacBook Air SuperDrive Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus Gatekeeper: ⓘ Mac App Store and identified developers Unknown Files: ⓘ /Library/LaunchDaemons/it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/it.easybyte.konga.helper One unknown file found. [Check files] Kernel Extensions: ⓘ /Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app [loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-kac (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] [not loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-mac (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] [loaded] com.eset.kext.esets-pfw (6.1.12 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-03-11) [support] System Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] 7 Apple tasks [loaded] 144 Apple tasks [running] 87 Apple tasks System Launch Daemons: ⓘ [not loaded] 42 Apple tasks [loaded] 143 Apple tasks [running] 105 Apple tasks Launch Agents: ⓘ [failed] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (2016-07-11) [running] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2015-07-01) [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist (2016-07-31) [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist (2016-07-31) [support] Launch Daemons: ⓘ [running] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [running] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-06-29) [running] com.eset.esets_daemon.plist (2015-09-28) [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2015-07-01) [loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2015-03-02) [support] [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist (2016-07-31) [loaded] it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist (2015-12-17) [support] User Launch Agents: ⓘ [failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2015-02-02) User Login Items: ⓘ iTunesHelper Applicazione (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app) Dropbox Applicazione (/Applications/Dropbox.app) ESET Cyber Security Applicazione (/Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app) Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ FlashPlayer-10.6: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-27) AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 15.017.20053 - SDK 10.11 (2016-08-03) [support] AdobePDFViewer: 15.017.20053 - SDK 10.11 (2016-08-03) [support] Flash Player: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-27) JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 77 build 03 (2016-04-02) Check version 3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ Flash Player (2016-06-29) [support] Java (2016-04-02) [support] Time Machine: ⓘ Mobile backups: OFF Auto backup: YES Volumes being backed up: Macintosh HD: Disk size: 498.93 GB Disk used: 119.78 GB Destinations: Data [Network] Total size: 2.00 TB Total number of backups: 100 Oldest backup: 08/01/15, 08:32 Last backup: 16/08/16, 20:41 Size of backup disk: Excellent Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 498.93 GB X 3) Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ 4% WindowServer 2% kernel_task 1% fontd(2) 0% esets_tray 0% storeassetd(2) Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ 801 MB kernel_task 459 MB mdworker(25) 360 MB esets_gui 360 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(3) 344 MB softwareupdated Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ 76 MB Free RAM 7.92 GB Used RAM (2.56 GB Cached) 541 MB Swap Used Diagnostics Information: ⓘ Aug 15, 2016, 05:08:33 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/esets_proxy_2016-08-15-170833_[redacted].crash /Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app/Contents/MacOS/esets_proxy Ecco fatto dopo la rimozione dei file che mi avete suggerito... Ora pero' non so come rimuovere l' antivirus Grazie mille ragazzi Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
RobySara Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 Autore Segnala Condividi Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 EtreCheck version: 3.0.1 (304) Report generated 2016-08-18 06:57:12 Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com Runtime 1:58 Performance: Excellent Click the [support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Details] links for more information about that line. Problem: Beachballing Hardware Information: ⓘ iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014) [Technical Specifications] - [user Guide] - [Warranty & Service] iMac - model: iMac14,4 1 1,4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core 8 GB RAM Not upgradeable BANK 0/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok BANK 1/DIMM0 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac Video Information: ⓘ Intel HD Graphics 5000 iMac 1920 x 1080 System Software: ⓘ OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 (15G31) - Time since boot: about 17 days Disk Information: ⓘ APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362 disk0 : (500,11 GB) (Rotational) EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 498.93 GB (379.97 GB free) Core Storage: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online USB Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) Apple Inc. MacBook Air SuperDrive Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus Gatekeeper: ⓘ Mac App Store and identified developers Unknown Files: ⓘ /Library/LaunchDaemons/it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/it.easybyte.konga.helper One unknown file found. [Check files] System Launch Agents: ⓘ [not loaded] 7 Apple tasks [loaded] 146 Apple tasks [running] 85 Apple tasks System Launch Daemons: ⓘ [not loaded] 42 Apple tasks [loaded] 143 Apple tasks [running] 105 Apple tasks Launch Agents: ⓘ [failed] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (2016-07-11) [running] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2015-07-01) [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist (2016-07-31) [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist (2016-07-31) [support] Launch Daemons: ⓘ [running] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [running] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (2016-07-11) [support] [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-06-29) [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2015-07-01) [loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2015-03-02) [support] [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist (2016-07-31) [loaded] it.easybyte.konga.helper.plist (2015-12-17) [support] User Launch Agents: ⓘ [failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2015-02-02) User Login Items: ⓘ iTunesHelper Applicazione (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app) Dropbox Applicazione (/Applications/Dropbox.app) Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ FlashPlayer-10.6: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-27) AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 15.017.20053 - SDK 10.11 (2016-08-03) [support] AdobePDFViewer: 15.017.20053 - SDK 10.11 (2016-08-03) [support] Flash Player: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-29) [support] Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-27) JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 77 build 03 (2016-04-02) Check version 3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ Flash Player (2016-06-29) [support] Java (2016-04-02) [support] Time Machine: ⓘ Mobile backups: OFF Auto backup: YES Volumes being backed up: Macintosh HD: Disk size: 498.93 GB Disk used: 118.96 GB Destinations: Data [Network] Total size: 2.00 TB Total number of backups: 100 Oldest backup: 08/01/15, 08:32 Last backup: 16/08/16, 20:41 Size of backup disk: Excellent Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 498.93 GB X 3) Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ 4% WindowServer 2% fontd(2) 1% kernel_task 0% notifyd 0% NotificationCenter(2) Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ 833 MB kernel_task 565 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(4) 344 MB softwareupdated 262 MB Mail(2) 221 MB Finder(2) Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ 469 MB Free RAM 7.54 GB Used RAM (2.63 GB Cached) 514 MB Swap Used Diagnostics Information: ⓘ Aug 15, 2016, 05:08:33 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/esets_proxy_2016-08-15-170833_[redacted].crash /Applications/ESET Cyber Security.app/Contents/MacOS/esets_proxy Rimosso... Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
167-761 Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 Segnala Condividi Inviato 18 Agosto 2016 E' più reattivo ora il tuo Mac? Riavvia almeno una volta. Come sei messo con Adobe CC? Lo usi e ti funziona? Link al commento Condividi su altri siti Altre opzioni di condivisione...
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