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bilo99

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Salve, mi sono appena iscritto a questo forum e volevo chiedervi un parere io ho un iMac 21.5 pollici 4k del 2017 e da quando l ho comprato va lento (veramente lento), già ho fatto vari backup, riprestinato il disco, l anno scorso ho provato a collegare il cavo ethernet al Mac non non veniva letto (il cavo comunque funziona perché l ho provato su un Windows) penso che la porta non funzioni. Qualcuno mi potrebbe aiutare?

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Prova a passare EtreCheck e posta qui il report, potremo cosi avere un quadro della situazione 

iMac 24 M1 512GB 16gb RAM , Time Machine 4tb tramite Lacie D2 Professional USB-C 3.2 gen2 , SSD Dati 1tb Crucial X8  

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Il disco meccanico non è idoneo, come velocità, ai moderni OS… il motivo della lentezza da te lamentata è lui. Per risolvere metti una SSD esterna in cui installare il sistema e tenerla come disco di avvio tenendo il disco meccanico interno per i dati

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13 ore fa, agente25 dice:

Prova a passare EtreCheck e posta qui il report, potremo cosi avere un quadro della situazione 

EtreCheckPro version: 6.5.1 (6F003)
Report generated: 2021-07-25 11:33:23
Download EtreCheckPro from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 28:08
Performance: Poor

Problem: No problem - just checking

Major Issues:
  Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.
  Hard drive too slow - The hard drive in this computer is too slow.

Minor Issues:
  These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future problems or opportunities for improvement.
  No Time Machine backup - Time Machine backup not found.
  Clean up - There are orphan files that could be removed.
  Unsigned files - There are unsigned software files installed. Apple has said that unsigned software will not run by default in a future version of the operating system.
  x86-only Apps - This computer has x86-only apps might not work on future versions of the operating system.
  Limited drive access - More information may be available with Full Drive Access.
  Sharing enabled - This computer has sharing services enabled that could be a security risk.

Hardware Information:
  iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017)
  iMac Model: iMac18,2
  3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 (i5-7400) CPU: 4-core
  8 GB RAM - Upgradeable by an Apple Authorized Service Provider
    BANK 0/DIMM0 - 4 GB DDR4 SO-DIMM 2400  
    BANK 1/DIMM0 - 4 GB DDR4 SO-DIMM 2400  

Video Information:
  Radeon Pro 555 - VRAM: 2 GB
    iMac (built-in) 4096 x 2304

Drives:
  disk0 - APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E632 1.00 TB (Mechanical - 5400 RPM)
  Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA
    disk0s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
    disk0s2 [APFS Container] 1000.00 GB
      disk1 [APFS Virtual drive] 1000.00 GB (Shared by 6 volumes)
        disk1s1 - M*****************i (APFS) [APFS Virtual drive] (Shared - 274.00 GB used)
        disk1s2 - Preboot (APFS) [APFS Preboot] (Shared - 551 MB used)
        disk1s3 - Recovery (APFS) [Recovery] (Shared - 626 MB used)
        disk1s4 - VM (APFS) [APFS VM] (Shared - 5.37 GB used)
        disk1s5 (APFS) [APFS Container] (Shared - 15.33 GB used)
          disk1s5s1 - Macintosh HD (APFS) [APFS Snapshot] (Shared - 15.33 GB used)
        disk1s6 - Update (APFS) (Shared - 5 MB used)

Mounted Volumes:
  disk1s1 - M*****************i [APFS Virtual drive]
    1000.00 GB (Shared - 274.00 GB used, 735.13 GB available, 703.90 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/Data

  disk1s2 - Preboot [APFS Preboot]
    1000.00 GB (Shared - 551 MB used, 703.90 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/Preboot

  disk1s4 - VM [APFS VM]
    1000.00 GB (Shared - 5.37 GB used, 703.90 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/VM

  disk1s5s1 - Macintosh HD [APFS Snapshot]
    1000.00 GB (Shared - 15.33 GB used, 735.13 GB available, 703.90 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /
    Read-only: Yes

  disk1s6 - Update
    1000.00 GB (Shared - 5 MB used, 703.90 GB free)
    APFS
    Mount point: /System/Volumes/Update

Network:
  Interface en0: Ethernet
  Interface en1: Wi-Fi
    802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
  Interface en4: Bluetooth PAN
  Interface bridge0: Thunderbolt Bridge
  iCloud Quota: 3.44 GB available

  Printer sharing: Enabled

System Software:
  macOS Big Sur 11.5 (20G71)
  Time since boot: About 2 days

Security:
  Gatekeeper: App Store and identified developers
  System Integrity Protection: Enabled

  Antivirus software: Apple and Avast

  Printer sharing: Enabled

Unsigned Files:
  Launchd: /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.avast.uninstall.plist
    Executable: /Library/Application Support/Avast/autouninstall/autouninstall.sh
    Details: Exact match found in the legitimate list - probably OK

  Apps: 10

Old Applications:
  76 x86-only apps

System Launch Daemons:
  [Not Loaded]  37 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  169 Apple tasks
  [Running]  157 Apple tasks
  [Other]  2 Apple tasks

System Launch Agents:
  [Not Loaded]  16 Apple tasks
  [Loaded]  178 Apple tasks
  [Running]  139 Apple tasks
  [Other]  One Apple task

Launch Daemons:
  [Loaded] com.adobe.acc.installer.v2.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-01-15)
  [Loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist (? 1d68eef4  - installed 2020-01-15)
  [Loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2021-03-03)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2021-03-27)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-05-11)
  [Loaded] com.microsoft.teams.TeamsUpdaterDaemon.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)

Launch Agents:
  [Loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2021-03-03)
  [Loaded] com.google.keystone.xpcservice.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2021-03-03)
  [Not Loaded] com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdater.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)
  [Not Loaded] com.microsoft.update.agent.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2021-03-27)

User Launch Agents:
  [Other] com.epicgames.launcher.plist (? 0  - installed 2021-03-27)
  [Not Loaded] com.google.Chrome.framework.plist (? 0  - installed 2020-10-15)
  [Not Loaded] com.riot.riotclient.checkinstalls.plist (Riot Games - installed 2020-04-23)

User Login Items:
  [Not Loaded] Launcher Disabler (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/Launcher Disabler.app

  [Not Loaded] OneDrive Launcher (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2020-06-04)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/OneDrive.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/OneDrive Launcher.app

  [Not Loaded] ShazamHelper (App Store - installed 2020-03-23)
    Modern Login Item
    /Applications/Shazam.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/ShazamHelper.app

Internet Plug-ins:
  AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2020-01-15)

Backup:
  Time Machine Not Configured!

Performance:
  System Load: 2.49 (1 min ago) 1.95 (5 min ago) 1.66 (15 min ago)
  Nominal I/O speed: 1.03 MB/s
  File system: 37.43 seconds
  Write speed: 34 MB/s
  Read speed: 59 MB/s

CPU Usage Snapshot:
  Type Overall
  System: 10 %
  User: 15 %
  Idle: 75 %

Top Processes Snapshot by CPU:
  Process (count) CPU (Source - Location)
  opendirectoryd 16.90 % (Apple)
  firefox 15.26 % (Mozilla Corporation)
  Finder 13.72 % (Apple)
  EtreCheckPro 12.82 % (Etresoft, Inc.)
  WindowServer 9.48 % (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Memory:
  Process (count) RAM usage (Source - Location)
  pycharm 725 MB (JetBrains s.r.o.)
  plugin-container (11) 712 MB (Mozilla Corporation)
  Google Chrome Helper (Renderer) (8) 253 MB (Google, Inc.)
  firefox 231 MB (Mozilla Corporation)
  EtreCheckPro 181 MB (Etresoft, Inc.)

Top Processes Snapshot by Network Use:
  Process (count) Input / Output (Source - Location)
  mDNSResponder 1007 KB / 569 KB (Apple)
  netbiosd 212 KB / 404 KB (Apple)
  apsd 11 KB / 165 KB (Apple)
  firefox 25 KB / 79 KB (Mozilla Corporation)
  launchd 6 KB / 0 B (Apple)

Top Processes Snapshot by Energy Use:
  Process (count) Energy (0-100) (Source - Location)
  firefox 8 (Mozilla Corporation)
  opendirectoryd 5 (Apple)
  WindowServer 5 (Apple)
  spindump 4 (Apple)
  plugin-container (11) 4 (Mozilla Corporation)

Virtual Memory Information:
  Physical RAM: 8 GB

  Free RAM: 17 MB
  Used RAM: 5.60 GB
  Cached files: 2.39 GB

  Available RAM: 2.40 GB
  Swap Used: 512 KB

Software Installs (past 60 days):
  Install Date Name (Version)
  2021-05-26 macOS 11.4 (11.4)
  2021-06-02 Numbers (11.1)
  2021-06-02 Keynote (11.1)
  2021-06-02 Pages (11.1)
  2021-06-22 Xcode (12.5.1)
  2021-06-29 XProtectPlistConfigData (2149)
  2021-06-29 MRTConfigData (1.81)
  2021-07-09 iMovie (10.2.5)
  2021-07-09 Zoom (5.7.1.499)
  2021-07-23 macOS 11.5 (11.5)

Clean up:
  ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.google.Chrome.framework.plist
    /Applications/Google Chrome.app/Contents/Frameworks/Google Chrome Framework.framework/Versions/85.0.4183.121/Helpers/Google Chrome Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Chrome Helper
    Executable not found
  ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.epicgames.launcher.plist
    /Applications/Epic Games Launcher.app
    Executable not found

Diagnostics Information (past 7-30 days):

End of report

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22 minuti fa, nemesis.ilovemac dice:

Il disco meccanico non è idoneo, come velocità, ai moderni OS… il motivo della lentezza da te lamentata è lui. Per risolvere metti una SSD esterna in cui installare il sistema e tenerla come disco di avvio tenendo il disco meccanico interno per i dati

Grazie che capienza dovrebbe avere l ssd e come posso installare il sistema sul ssd e lasciare i dati sul hard disk?

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2 ore fa, bilo99 dice:

Write speed: 34 MB/s
  Read speed: 59 MB/s

Questo è il collo di bottiglia... per il solo macOS potrebbero bastarti sui 60 gb ma ti direi, visti gli attuali costi, di andare su 500gb (siamo sui 60€) o sul tera byte sui 100€

iMac 24 M1 512GB 16gb RAM , Time Machine 4tb tramite Lacie D2 Professional USB-C 3.2 gen2 , SSD Dati 1tb Crucial X8  

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3 ore fa, bilo99 dice:

 

Launch Daemons:
  [Loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist (? 1d68eef4  - installed 2020-01-15)    

e certo, oltre a BigSur su HD meccanico, anche un inutile antivirus non aiuta ad avere una macchina snella e reattiva

Luigi alias Nemesis

Apple ][e SE/30 iMac Late 2012 FusionDrive PowerMac Dual G4 n. 2 iBook G4 n. 2 MacBook 2009 MacBook Air 2015 iPod Touche 4G, Nano e Shuffle iPhone X 64GB iPad Air 2 WiFi + cellular iPad 2 3G e iPad 2 solo WiFi

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